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Senator Mike Enzi (ME) -- I'll begin with a statement and then following that open it up to questions from either of you on any topic you want. This is the usual format we follow on this. You are on the program today on a rather historic day because this is the day that my first bill passed through Congress. The Postal OSHA bill the Postal Employees Safety Enhancement Act passed unanimously by the Senate in July, made it through the House at noon today. It made it through unanimously and so it will shortly be on its way for the President to sign. We'll keep people posted as that happens too. What the bill does directly affects the safety of 800,000 postal workers. Safety has been a focus of mine while I've been back here. I was disconcerted to find out that the federal government, while it was partly under OSHA really didn't have to comply. When I got to checking on the results of that I found that there was an abnormally high accident rate. I looked to see who had the highest accident rate and it was the Postal Service. This bill will now place them under all of the OSHA regulations, even the fines. It will level the playing field for private companies. It will get the attention of the Post Office to get busy on providing for more safety for their employees. It also assures that the consumer won't be penalized by the hiking of rates or the closing of Post Offices under the presumption that it was caused by OSHA. This is a real step in making government live by its own rules. I've had some success on my other bill the SAFE Act. We've got a couple of portions of that through previously that have been signed into law by the President but this is the first one that I've originated and worked on both ends of the building and I've gotten it through on unanimous consent. I'm very pleased with that and pleased to be able to announce it today at this interview. With that I'll open it up for questions on anything.

Ernie Over (EO) -- Congratulations Senator. This is Ernie Over in Lander.

(ME) -- Thank you.

(EO) -- Of course the country has been transfixed the last three days and I'd like to get your take now that you've had a chance to read the Starr Report on what you think is going to happen and what your reaction to the Starr Report is?

(ME) -- I'm still looking the Report over. I'm reminded regularly that that is just a very small part of what the House is going to have to go through. There were 36 boxes delivered to the Capitol. That was just two copies of the information for them. The kind of executive summary, I guess, is the 454 page paper except it leaves out a lot of aspects of the case that are contained in the other boxes that probably don't have the same focus as what was reported. One of the things that concerns me is this isn't an action yet for the Senate. We are really not involved with it until the House finishes their action. So we are going to go ahead and complete the work we are trying to do. There's going to be a lot of implications of this well beyond Congress because one of the things that's going to be raised sooner or later is, what are we going to do with all of the other people who have already been convicted or had to face special responsibilities as a result of very similar actions that the President has taken? There are some criminal things that have happened out there, some non-criminal things. We allowed one Air Force officer to resign because she was involved in adultery and we couldn't trust her with atomic weapons on her airplane anymore. Do we have to go back and revisit that case? Also the action that Congress would take only deals with whether the President would stay in office or not or be able to hold office at any other time in his life. That's what impeachment results in. It does not resolve criminal activities. It doesn't resolve civil activities. Those people who have civil grounds against the President can and probably will tie him up in court over their specific case for a long period of time to come. It's not going to be just a House action and then a Senate action, it's going to be action in all of the courts regarding the materials that have come up during the course of this investigation. It's going to be a very complicated and disturbing time for our nation.

(EO) -- If I may ask follow up please?

(ME) -- Sure.

(EO) -- The federal budget is coming up October 1. Do you fear the attention given to this matter is going to pre-empt any other work that happening in Congress?

(ME) -- Actually I don't think it will interfere. I know it won't interfere with our work on the Senate side. The House is a little bit closer to it. They are already involved in the process but they assure us that just two committees are involved in this whole process and they will work and maintain and make sure that only two committees are involved in it. Once the initial surprise of the whole action ends it will be back to business. We know that we will have to get those budgets done and have been working to get those budgets done by October 1. In fact, when we left for the August break we were further ahead in the appropriations process than we had been before. Now there seems to be some delaying tactics and I'm hoping that the other side won't involve themselves in delaying tactics or publicity tactics that would keep us from getting the budget done. That will be a prime focus for us. We know that we need to have it done by October 1.

Doug Randall (DR) -- Senator, most of the polls I've seen so far indicate that most people would like the President to remain in office although they would like to see some sort of punishment in regard to the revelations we've had so far. Do you think that those polls will be a consideration as Congress deliberates this matter?

(ME) -- I don't think the polls will be a consideration. That's not how the Constitution set it up. We'll follow the Constitution in any process that we do here because we've all sworn to do that. I'm back in the State almost every weekend. The people in Wyoming keep telling me , "Where do they get these polls?" "This is not what we're trying to convey to you." "This is not the message we're giving." I'm kind of concerned about doing this thing by the polls. I think that's mostly generated by the eastern media and I don't think the Wyoming people are buying into it.

-- What's your sense in Congress? Do you think there is strong sentiment for impeachment at this point?

(ME) -- I really don't know. There is such a reaction you know when information gets delivered like it was and so much interest nationally in that information. It was incredible that most of the Web sites that had it and people would expect could have it were just jammed up with people trying to get on line to see the report. We just had a little announcement just before it came out that we would put it on ours to avoid some of the congestion. In three days I got as many people looking at my web site as I would have in an entire month. People are all looking at that. I don't think that answered your whole question.

-- Senator that here been some discussion that putting this report on the Internet was not an appropriate thing to do and it would be subject to people tampering with the information, changing things, that sort of stuff. As so often happens on Internet related activities, it's hard to keep that information pure. You're pretty much the Senate's information technology junkie. How do you react to that?

(ME) -- I think that it was a report for the American people. The American people have been involved in it for a long time and I couldn't see any reason not to disclose to them the information as soon as it was available to me provided it was approved for disclosure. And it was. As for tampering with it on the Internet, most of the main sources for that document, the Library of Congress and the House Web site and even my own Web site are pretty tamper proof. They've got some pretty good fire walls there. That's not to say it couldn't happen, but people have to remember that none of those three sites have the original document. It's the original documents, and the original documents are much more extensive than what was put on the Internet. There is a lot more to it and it is kept secure so nothing could be tampered with that will actually affect the committee that will be doing the work.

-- Do you feel a voter backlash on this coming back at the Republicans. We've had nine months of sex now. As the other reporter indicated the national polls done by independent organizations not media organizations have indicated that people are tired of hearing this issue.

(ME) -- People are not only tired of hearing the issue, they are embarrassed about the issue. Not only are the people embarrassed, our country is embarrassed. We are getting some repercussions from foreign countries that are rather disconcerting to us in light of what we have to do with those foreign countries in boosting the economy and protecting the national security. Again, it isn't what I'm hearing in Wyoming and I didn't mean to say it was just the polls of the media, but the people of Wyoming don't feel that it's a reflection of what's going on in their minds as to what has been done. They are very quick to point out to me that it was Clinton himself who lied to the American public for seven months and drug this investigation out. When we gave him the time to do the State of the Union speech knowing how important that was he promised us that right after the State of the Union speech he would give us the answers. More not less, sooner not later and that he would make full disclosure on the thing, which he didn't. Now I understand that the day after the State of the Union speech and there were a lot of people who talked to me about this coincidence, Iraq jumped off track on their weapons inspections. That created a military crisis for our country. A military crisis that we weren't able to deal with with the President in the position he was in. We did make it through that crisis. We didn't get the information until he was forced to testify before a grand jury. It is the President himself who has caused a lot of the problems. Probably had he been honest and apologized at the time it happened the American people would have forgiven him. They are staying with the point that it's a lie, that it's perjury. Yes, there is sex involved in it and that's the provable portion of this. They are incensed for them and their kids of the image of being able to tell a lie and saying "Well, I'm doing a good job so a lie is okay." That's the word I'm getting in Wyoming.

(DR) -- Senator, do you expect this to have much impact on the fall Congressional campaigns?

(ME) -- It's a long time before the fall Congressional campaigns are over. I can tell you from the speeches that I'm seeing on the floor, primarily by the Democrats who are kind of jumping ship that it would be an indication that it is going to affect the elections this fall. The person who is the head of the Democratic party of the United States, the President of the United States is putting them in a position where their people are losing confidence. So, it is affecting the elections.

-- moving on to another issue if I might. What is the status of the legislation to protect methane lease holders in light of that court decision?

(ME) -- The current status on it is we are waiting for the Interior bill to be discussed again so that we can attach it to the Interior bill. We have consent now from both the Democrats and the Republicans to attach it to that and support from the Department of Interior to put it on there. That's the provision of course that recognizes all leases that were in effect at least prior to the court decision. The court decision of course is on-going. It will probably be appealed and go to the Supreme Court. This will establish the right of the leaseholders up to that period in time, so we won't have confusion or the right of the federal government to go back and collect royalties for the last 90 years, which could have a devastating effect on a number of individuals. Representative Cubin is also working it from the House end and we think we have a vehicle to bring it through from that end, even a vehicle that both she and Craig would sit on the conference committee for. We've got two ways to get it through there. We just need the right pieces of legislation to come through. We are looking at the possibility as we said last month when this came up that a small miracle, and it would be in the miracle category, that we could get it done during the month of September. It is a very limited period of time to get any new concept legislation through. We are very encouraged and optimistic at the moment and I think we will get that handled if we can get the pieces of legislation up that we need and one of them is the Department of Interior Appropriations bill.

(EO) -- Senator what have you been hearing from the Department of Labor in reference to Wyoming's application for a Job Corps Center at Jeffrey City?

(ME) -- I've been keeping pretty close track of that. I'm positioned on the Labor Committee which is involved in the Job Corps training. We placed the requirement that there needed to be one in every state. There are only four states that don't have one now. I'm hoping Wyoming will be the next one. I'm pleased at Jeffrey City's participation in this, their enthusiasm, and also the availability of some buildings there which should give us a little notch up in the evaluation process. I'm watching the appropriations process as it comes through. The Senate Labor appropriation for that category is up about $53 million. I think the funding is there and they are still in a good position for it. The evaluation won't begin for at least another week of the towns. We're watching it and pulling for Jeffrey City and doing what we can to get it there.

(EO) -- Slipping to another topic, Senator, it's been suggested that the government needs to get back into the regulation of airline business when it comes to the big vast open spaces of the West. We've had another shift as you know in Wyoming where Air Wisconsin is gone it's United Express Carrier, Great Lakes Aviation came in in three cities. What's your feeling on this? Does the government need to step back in and help insure air service for rural western communities?

(ME) -- I think I'm one of the reasons that we are even talking about re-regulating the airline industry because it's a threat that I and the delegation have used with people. There is a shortage of aircraft right now and the airlines seem to be pulling that aircraft to where they can make the most money off of it rather than providing a continuing service. We are working to keep that from happening. Wyoming is a very viable market. Their planes are running near full all the time. We look at every instance that comes up where they suggest that they might be able to take them out. One of the flights we know that they were charging, there were some revenue losses but we are trying to look at the accounting problems there. We are covering this from every angle we can. We know that air transportation is essential to Wyoming. We not only need to have what we had before, we need to have more. Wyoming's growth is kind of tied to airlines. We are all concentrating on that.

(DR) -- Senator, on a similar note, do you see any chance for the restoration of AMTRAK service to Wyoming?

(ME) -- No. I don't see any chance for the restoration of AMTRAK. I'm sad about that. It's a part of the history of Wyoming that's disappeared. It disappeared because AMTRAK didn't want it to happen and that's why it won't come back. Anytime you've got a business, and AMTRAK is a business, that runs their operation so it is six or seven hours behind time and it takes you an hour or two on hold to get a reservation, they are not very interested in running that business. In fact, it looked to me like they were attempting to build a case so that they could get rid of it. They did build the case and they did get rid of it. To try and counter that, I put in a provision in the AMTRAK funding that said that if they take the AMTRAK out of Wyoming, Wyoming will get one percent of the AMTRAK funds. We now have $11 million for this year and will get $13 million next year to provide intercity transportation. I would like to have had good rail traffic, not the way they were operating it, but good rail traffic in Wyoming. Now we have an opportunity for some new businesses to provide intercity transportation. We will be able to transport people and goods across the state and get people to the airline hubs. We may come out better on it than with AMTRAK continuing other than for the historical value. It's $24 million we've got to work with in just this two-year period.

(EO) -- Senator you've been traveling back to the State on a regular basis. Aside from the issues we've already discussed today, what are Wyoming people telling you? What are they concerned about?

(ME) -- Well, one of the biggest concerns in Wyoming is the agriculture market at the present time. There are people across Wyoming who are really hurting because of the low prices of beef and all agriculture land, all of the agricultural commodities, the farm products as well as the ranch products. I've been involved in a number of efforts to help out there. A few that affect the near term. One of the near term ones is the disaster relief act. We've got $500 million in emergency funds and we've accelerated the time that those funds would get distributed. It's going to be about $7.5 million in payments to Wyoming. There will be some other emergency relief things that will be included as the process goes through. We've been working on meat labeling. We've been working on the packer concentration. We've been working on being able to more easily get meat from Wyoming across state lines kind of similar to the way that Canada's able to get meat to go across international lines. We think we ought to get at least a level playing field with that. I've been doing a lot of looking into the importation issues that people have been bringing up across the state. We do have a big segment that's really hurting there. I'm looking for ideas on what to do. I want people to know there are a lot of people here concerned about what's happening in agriculture at the moment. What's happening is the people who are producing the product are the ones being hurt. Everyone else up the food chain is doing okay.